. >> cenk: i don't know if you know the answer to this, by if you're a hostage in this situation, steve made it out. his wife is on tape. let me show that you first and then we'll talk about it. >> he was there in hiding for about two and a half days, was within two or three feet of some of the terrorists at times some of his friends didn't make it. there were a couple of times when he said he truly did think he was going to die. >> cenk: thank god he didn't. so is there any tips for anybody who finds themselves in a situation like this? >> well, i mean, it sounds like he, you know did the right thing, and trusted his gut instincts in staying in hiding. i mean, obviously, we can see you don't want to wait for the algerians to save you. interestingly, when i was going through c.i.a. training and we did have some training if we were taken hostage or interrogated and what really surprised me, i had always thought that, you know, they would train us to be as stoic as possible. in fact, they kind of encouraged us to wine and be as problematic as possible to your hostage takers to show that y